****Forced Induction FAQ*******

redlsteg · 01-23-2008, 01:57 AM

Welcome to the Forced Induction FAQ. If you are reading this congratulations you are educating yourself and helping b20vtec's tech section to hopefully grow into a vast area of tech info.

The purpose of this FAQ is to encourage other members to ask more in depth questions rather the troublesome, vague general ones we have all seen here before.
If you are new to the FI(forced induction) world, hopefully this faq will be able to give you a better understanding of the concepts of FI components and how they work. This is going to be a community FAQ. I will start off with a few, and encourage everyone to take a little time and post links to information they feel would be valuable in here.
If you are sick of seeing people posting "how much will i make/what times will i run" etc. Find the answer or write something up and PM a link or writeup it to me, or just post it here. I witht he help of the mods will check this post periodically and arrange your posts for quick reference.
hopefully we can make this as extensive and organized as the honda-tech FAQ.so start diggin out your saved info and post it up.

DO NOT POST USELESS COMMENTS!!!!! ONLY POST LINKS/INFORMATION THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THIS FAQ PLEASE. ANYTHING NOT PERTAINING TO THE PROGRESSION OF THE FAQ WILL BE REPORTED/REMOVED AND BE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY, INCLUDING INFRACTIONS..

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READ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
TURBO TECH 101 BASICS (thanks hks-gst):
TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech101

TURBO TECH 102 ADVANCED (hks-gst):
TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech102

Turbo Tech 103 (hks-gst):
TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech103

One of the best turbo reads (thanks G T):
G2IC Turbo Guide - A Guide to Turbocharging your Honda / Acura Integra

Heres how much boost (PSI) to run |explained (RedLSteg):
Turbo D16 • View topic - FAQ: Here's how much boost (psi) to run

Horsepower: Supporting Parts needed to acheive HP goal Reliably| good for use as a guide for B/K motors (DownshiftperEK9):horsepower to part charts

Building on a Budget ( RedLSteg, JDMVTI, Others..):
http://www.b20vtec.com/forums/turbo-...ost-my-ls.html

How much can I make on a Stock Motor/How much HP will stock sleeves Hold (redLSteg):
Honda-Tech.com: Forced Induction: H-T's highest HP on a stock block thread....

Ebay turbo/turbo kit information (RedLSteg):
Honda-Tech.com: Forced Induction: Noobs and EBAY turbo's, your question's answered.

Turbocharger flow map calculator | Various other Java Calculators FI related (RedLSteg):
Ray Hall Turbocharging - Java turbocharger flow map calculator
Ray Hall Turbocharging - Java calculation applets

Turbine housing, Exhaust sizing, and Back Pressure (Thanks DownshiftperEK9):
Turbine housings, exhaust sizing, and backpressure.

Understanding your Turbo Size, A/R, and trim | Which one is best for you? (Thanks JDMVti):
Understanding Your turbo Size, AR and Trim

Engine Management Comparisons (DownshiftperEK9):
engine management comparison

Boost Controller Comparisons (downshiftperEK9):
boost controller comparison

Air-to-Air Intercooler Information (downshiftperEK9):
How to choose an air/air Intercooler.

How to size fuel Injectors (downshiftperEK9):
How to size fuel injectors.
Fuel Injector information & Specifications specs(RedLSteg)

How to Clock a Turbo (downshiftperEK9):
How to

When to upgrade fuel lines (downshiftperEK9):
When to upgrade fuel lines.

How to choose a Fuel Pump (DownshiftperEK9):
How to choose a fuel pump.

Wastegate sizing (downshiftperEK9):
Wastegate sizing.

Information on Crank Pullies (RedLSteg):
Questions for the Experienced.........
_more PAGE 2....
pulley kits????????

Differences Between Log, Cast, And tubular Exhaust Manifolds-Explained (DownshiftperEK9):
See References on First Page below..

Stock B20+Boost Debate/Information:
Stock B20 + Boost

Piston RING gap(install), Oversized valves and boost:
piston ring gap - Team Integra

Piston ring rotation:
Piston Ring Rotation

Check back often as i will be updating frequently: ALSO IF YOU HAVE HELPFULINFO PLEASEEE POST SO I CAN ADD AND GIVE U CREDIT!!!

DownShiftPerfEK9 · 01-23-2008, 04:57 AM

I'm currently making some posts now about various boost issues if you need any help with this FAQ

hks-gst · 01-23-2008, 05:12 AM

READ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
TURBO TECH 101 BASICS
TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech101

TURBO TECH 102 ADVANCED
TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech102

Turbo Tech 103
TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech103

DownShiftPerfEK9 · 01-23-2008, 03:34 PM

Comparing Turbo Manifolds

Log < mini ram < ramhorn < topmount

Log
-The cheapest of all the manifolds. Log manifolds can easily be made to allow AC and power steering. A log manifold will spool up a turbo rather fast because of its short runner length, but due to it being less than ideal for high volume flow, top end power on a log can be greatly restricted. Logs such as the Inline Pro have a rather good design and ARE able to flow quite well at higher RPMs. A log will work perfectly fine for most street setups...especially stock block

Mini Ram
-Built with a 4-1 collector, mini rams flow better than a log and are still fairly compact and inexpensive. These manifolds are a good mix of short runner design (quick spool) and better flow at higher RPM. This is what i run on the street...i would recommend it for most people who DD their cars, but want better overall flow than a regular log manifold.

Ramhorn
- More equal length than the last two. Ramhorn manifolds have longer runners; therefore, taking longer to spool, but runners are closer to being equal length (better top end flow). Since these manifolds are bottom mounts, it is more difficult to fit a large diameter downpipe or easily manipulate the turbo.

Topmount
- A topmount is generally very close to, if not completely equal length meaning all runners are the same. This is important because of the cylinder exhaust pulses. Rather than overlapping in a non-eq manifold, in an equal length topmount, all exhaust pulses enter the turbo uniterrupted. This allows the most efficient use of exhaust energy without having deadspots created where there is no exhaust energy in the turbo...even if it is for just a millisecond. Topmounts are generally able to accomodate 4" downpipes and larger turbos due to the placement in the engine bay.

Spool
1. Log
2. Mini Ram
3. Ramhorn
4. Topmount

Overall Power Potential
1. Topmount
2. Ramhorn
3. Mini Ram
4. Log

ChubbzSnA98CoupE · 01-23-2008, 03:37 PM

MMMMM Brain Food. Get it while it's hot Fellas/Fellitas!!
BUMP!
A little bit Wiki Knowledge
Forced induction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocharging
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercharging
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowoff_valve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_gate

redlsteg · 01-23-2008, 07:36 PM

ty guys keep em coming.

***g t*** · 02-28-2008, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Pootie

i was googleing and found this, and its a damn goood write up... thought i'd poach it,, and post here , maybe it will help some of u guys from pullin your hair out!!

Honda-Tech.com: Forced Induction: -->COMPLETE How-To:: Turbocharge Your Honda // Rep-ing Hypnotik Speed

props to the OP on H-T!!!

.....

redlsteg · 09-23-2008, 04:42 PM

update!!!

92civicboost · 02-24-2009, 11:42 PM

Best turbo write up i ever read...
One of the best turbo reads (thanks G T):
G2IC Turbo Guide - A Guide to Turbocharging your Honda / Acura Integra

OneSikDC · 03-23-2009, 09:21 PM

every single member should read the honda-tech thread about ebay kits

01-23-2008, 01:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
redlsteg Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In a House Posts: 4,247 iTrader: (3)	**Forced Induction FAQ*** Welcome to the Forced Induction FAQ. If you are reading this congratulations you are educating yourself and helping b20vtec's tech section to hopefully grow into a vast area of tech info. The purpose of this FAQ is to encourage other members to ask more in depth questions rather the troublesome, vague general ones we have all seen here before. If you are new to the FI(forced induction) world, hopefully this faq will be able to give you a better understanding of the concepts of FI components and how they work. This is going to be a community FAQ. I will start off with a few, and encourage everyone to take a little time and post links to information they feel would be valuable in here. If you are sick of seeing people posting "how much will i make/what times will i run" etc. Find the answer or write something up and PM a link or writeup it to me, or just post it here. I witht he help of the mods will check this post periodically and arrange your posts for quick reference. hopefully we can make this as extensive and organized as the honda-tech FAQ.so start diggin out your saved info and post it up. DO NOT POST USELESS COMMENTS!!!!! ONLY POST LINKS/INFORMATION THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THIS FAQ PLEASE. ANYTHING NOT PERTAINING TO THE PROGRESSION OF THE FAQ WILL BE REPORTED/REMOVED AND BE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY, INCLUDING INFRACTIONS.. __________________________________________________ ________________________ READ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS TURBO TECH 101 BASICS (thanks hks-gst): TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech101 TURBO TECH 102 ADVANCED (hks-gst): TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech102 Turbo Tech 103 (hks-gst): TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech103 One of the best turbo reads (thanks G T): G2IC Turbo Guide - A Guide to Turbocharging your Honda / Acura Integra Heres how much boost (PSI) to run \|explained (RedLSteg): Turbo D16 • View topic - FAQ: Here's how much boost (psi) to run Horsepower: Supporting Parts needed to acheive HP goal Reliably\| good for use as a guide for B/K motors (DownshiftperEK9):horsepower to part charts Building on a Budget ( RedLSteg, JDMVTI, Others..): http://www.b20vtec.com/forums/turbo-...ost-my-ls.html How much can I make on a Stock Motor/How much HP will stock sleeves Hold (redLSteg): Honda-Tech.com: Forced Induction: H-T's highest HP on a stock block thread.... Ebay turbo/turbo kit information (RedLSteg): Honda-Tech.com: Forced Induction: Noobs and EBAY turbo's, your question's answered. Turbocharger flow map calculator \| Various other Java Calculators FI related (RedLSteg): Ray Hall Turbocharging - Java turbocharger flow map calculator Ray Hall Turbocharging - Java calculation applets Turbine housing, Exhaust sizing, and Back Pressure (Thanks DownshiftperEK9): Turbine housings, exhaust sizing, and backpressure. Understanding your Turbo Size, A/R, and trim \| Which one is best for you? (Thanks JDMVti): Understanding Your turbo Size, AR and Trim Engine Management Comparisons (DownshiftperEK9): engine management comparison Boost Controller Comparisons (downshiftperEK9): boost controller comparison Air-to-Air Intercooler Information (downshiftperEK9): How to choose an air/air Intercooler. How to size fuel Injectors (downshiftperEK9): How to size fuel injectors. Fuel Injector information & Specifications specs(RedLSteg) How to Clock a Turbo (downshiftperEK9): How to When to upgrade fuel lines (downshiftperEK9): When to upgrade fuel lines. How to choose a Fuel Pump (DownshiftperEK9): How to choose a fuel pump. Wastegate sizing (downshiftperEK9): Wastegate sizing. Information on Crank Pullies (RedLSteg): Questions for the Experienced......... _more PAGE 2.... pulley kits???????? Differences Between Log, Cast, And tubular Exhaust Manifolds-Explained (DownshiftperEK9): See References on First Page below.. Stock B20+Boost Debate/Information: Stock B20 + Boost Piston RING gap(install), Oversized valves and boost: piston ring gap - Team Integra Piston ring rotation: Piston Ring Rotation Check back often as i will be updating frequently: ALSO IF YOU HAVE HELPFULINFO PLEASEEE POST SO I CAN ADD AND GIVE U CREDIT!!! __________________ I'd rather be a fast driver... STOP SUPPORTING THEIVES. DONT BUY STOLEN PARTS.** show your support and copy this into your sig.. Last edited by redlsteg; 09-23-2008 at 04:06 PM.

01-23-2008, 04:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
DownShiftPerfEK9 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: DITRY JERZ Posts: 12,336 iTrader: (23)	I'm currently making some posts now about various boost issues if you need any help with this FAQ __________________ *Need a swap or anything done? PM me. . .*

01-23-2008, 05:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
hks-gst Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 914 iTrader: (0)	READ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS TURBO TECH 101 BASICS TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech101 TURBO TECH 102 ADVANCED TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech102 Turbo Tech 103 TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech103 Last edited by hks-gst; 01-23-2008 at 05:17 AM.

01-23-2008, 03:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
DownShiftPerfEK9 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: DITRY JERZ Posts: 12,336 iTrader: (23)	Comparing Turbo Manifolds Log < mini ram < ramhorn < topmount Log -The cheapest of all the manifolds. Log manifolds can easily be made to allow AC and power steering. A log manifold will spool up a turbo rather fast because of its short runner length, but due to it being less than ideal for high volume flow, top end power on a log can be greatly restricted. Logs such as the Inline Pro have a rather good design and ARE able to flow quite well at higher RPMs. A log will work perfectly fine for most street setups...especially stock block Mini Ram -Built with a 4-1 collector, mini rams flow better than a log and are still fairly compact and inexpensive. These manifolds are a good mix of short runner design (quick spool) and better flow at higher RPM. This is what i run on the street...i would recommend it for most people who DD their cars, but want better overall flow than a regular log manifold. Ramhorn - More equal length than the last two. Ramhorn manifolds have longer runners; therefore, taking longer to spool, but runners are closer to being equal length (better top end flow). Since these manifolds are bottom mounts, it is more difficult to fit a large diameter downpipe or easily manipulate the turbo. Topmount - A topmount is generally very close to, if not completely equal length meaning all runners are the same. This is important because of the cylinder exhaust pulses. Rather than overlapping in a non-eq manifold, in an equal length topmount, all exhaust pulses enter the turbo uniterrupted. This allows the most efficient use of exhaust energy without having deadspots created where there is no exhaust energy in the turbo...even if it is for just a millisecond. Topmounts are generally able to accomodate 4" downpipes and larger turbos due to the placement in the engine bay. Spool 1. Log 2. Mini Ram 3. Ramhorn 4. Topmount Overall Power Potential 1. Topmount 2. Ramhorn 3. Mini Ram 4. Log __________________ *Need a swap or anything done? PM me. . .* Last edited by DownShiftPerfEK9; 01-30-2008 at 09:18 PM.

01-23-2008, 03:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
ChubbzSnA98CoupE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nunurbussines,Ny Posts: 1,728 iTrader: (0)	MMMMM Brain Food. Get it while it's hot Fellas/Fellitas!! BUMP! A little bit Wiki Knowledge Forced induction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocharging http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercharging http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowoff_valve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_gate __________________ im looking for a dc I got 2k whats good!! pm or email me Korsforte@gmail.com im looking for a dc I got 2k whats good!! pm or email me Korsforte@gmail.com Last edited by ChubbzSnA98CoupE; 01-23-2008 at 03:45 PM.

01-23-2008, 07:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
redlsteg Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In a House Posts: 4,247 iTrader: (3)	ty guys keep em coming. __________________ I'd rather be a fast driver... STOP SUPPORTING THEIVES. DONT BUY STOLEN PARTS. show your support and copy this into your sig..

09-23-2008, 04:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
redlsteg Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In a House Posts: 4,247 iTrader: (3)	update!!! __________________ I'd rather be a fast driver... STOP SUPPORTING THEIVES. DONT BUY STOLEN PARTS. show your support and copy this into your sig..

02-24-2009, 11:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
92civicboost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Where the zombies roam..610 Posts: 7,037 iTrader: (5)	Best turbo write up i ever read... One of the best turbo reads (thanks G T): G2IC Turbo Guide - A Guide to Turbocharging your Honda / Acura Integra __________________ ORGINAL B20vtec TEAM EF Member #37 Above the influence #17

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