NYS Driver Violation Point System

[FReaK]

The DMV driver violation point system helps to identify drivers who commit several traffic violations during a specific time period.

Remember that the point system is not the only reason for a driver license suspension or revocation. There are mandatory suspensions or revocations. For example, the DMV must revoke your driver license if you are convicted of three speeding violations within an 18-month period and you have fewer than 11 points.

This lists the number of points given for specific traffic violations:

Speeding (MPH over speed limit not indicated)= 3 points

Speeding (MPH over speed limit):
1 - 10 MPH = 3 points
11 - 20 MPH = 4 points
21 - 30 MPH = 6 points
31 - 40 MPH = 8 points
More than 40 MPH = 11 points

Reckless driving = 5 points

Failed to stop for a school bus = 5 points

Inadequate brakes = 4 points

Following too closely = 4 points

Passing improperly, changing lanes unsafely,
driving to the left of center, driving in the wrong
direction = 3 points

Failed to obey a traffic signal, a Stop sign,
or a Yield sign = 3 points

Railroad crossing violation = 3 points

Failed to yield the right-of-way = 3 points

Passenger safety violation, including seat belts,
child safety seats, or passengers under the age of 16 = 3 points

Left the scene of an accident that includes property
damage or the injury of a domestic animal = 3 points

Other moving violations = 2 points

Inadequate brakes (vehicle of an employer) = 2 points


How the DMV Calculates Your Point Total

The DMV computer system automatically calculates your point total. Your point total is the total number of driver violation points that you received during the 18 previous months. The points are counted from the dates of your traffic violations, not from the dates of your traffic convictions. A traffic conviction is required for the points to appear on your driver record. 18 months after the date of the violation, the points for that violation are removed from your point total. The convictions remain on your record. Learn more about convictions and your driver record.

If you receive 11 points or more in 18 months, the DMV suspends your driver license. You can request a DMV hearing only to show that a different person committed the violations. You cannot request a DMV hearing to prove that you were not guilty of the violations. You cannot request a DMV hearing to request a waiver of the suspension.

Note: Insurance companies have point systems different from the DMV driver violation point system. The two point systems have no connection. Contact your insurance company about their point system.

Out-of-state traffic violations: Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a traffic violation in Ontario or Quebec.

[no_joda]

ok now how long does it take for the points to go away? kuz i got 4 points for speeding n its been like 1 year n change since the day i went to court.

[FReaK]

The DMV keeps your points in their system for 18 months, insurance companies keep them for 36 to 48 months.

[GSR Alex]

I got 6 points from the only ticket I got in my life. I heard that if you get something like 10-20 people together, you can have a DMV defensive driver course intructor host a "special" 3-6 hour course, and instead of only taking 2 points off it takes 4 points off your liscence. Anyone have any more info on this?

[no_joda]

Originally Posted by FReaK

The DMV keeps your points in their system for 18 months, insurance companies keep them for 36 to 48 months.

thats mega stupid but how i check anyways go to the dmv?

[FReaK]

Originally Posted by no_joda

thats mega stupid but how i check anyways go to the dmv?

How to Get DMV Records
Read this section completely. Not all DMV records are available by the same method.

There is a fee of $6 for each search that is made. There is no guarantee of the results of the search. The fee is not refundable.
Personal checks or money orders must be made payable to "Commissioner of Motor Vehicles".
If your request for a driver abstract does not include a DPPA permissible use, you will receive only a masked abstract. An explanation of a masked abstract appears below.

At the DMV web site

If your address has not changed, you can order an abstract of your driver record on-line. You must provide the information from your driver license to prove your identity and you must use a credit card to pay the fee. The search fee is $6. Wait one week for your driver abstract to arrive by mail.

By Telephone

You can order an abstract of your driver record, registration abstract, or title abstract by telephone. You must provide the information from your driver license to prove your identity and you must use a credit card to pay the fees. There is a search fee of $6 and a processing fee of $5. The total is $11. Wait one week for your driver abstract to arrive by mail.

To order by telephone:

from area codes 315, 518, 585, 607, 716: 1-800-225-5368
from other area codes: 1-518-473-5595.


By Mail

You can use form MV-15 to order a DMV record by mail. Make sure that you have a DPPA permissible use for the information. You must include a photocopy of your proof of identity and a personal check or money order to pay the search fee of $6. Send these items to the address that is listed on the form.

If form MV-15 does not list a record that you need to request, you can use form MV-15F.

By Mail - When You Renew Your Driver License

The renewal notice for your driver license includes the option to order an abstract of your driver record. To order an abstract of your driver record, mark the blue box on your renewal notice. Add the search fee of $6 and the renewal fee. Send one personal check for the total amount of the two fees. Your driver abstract is sent separately from your driver license. Wait two weeks for your driver abstract to arrive by mail.

At a Local DMV Office

You can request a driver abstract at your local DMV office. You must show your proof of identity, complete form MV-15C, and pay the search fee of $6. You must certify that you have a DPPA permissible use. The driver abstract is delivered immediately.

At the Customer Service Counter of the DMV Central Office (Albany)

You can use form MV-15C to request a driver abstract at the Customer Service Counter, Room 136, Swan Street Building, Empire State Plaza, Albany. You must provide your proof of identity and pay the search fee of $6. You must certify that you have a DPPA permissible use. The driver abstract is delivered immediately

You can use form MV-15 to request a registration abstract or a title abstract at the Customer Service Counter, Room 136, Swan Street Building, Empire State Plaza, Albany. You must provide your proof of identity and pay the search fee of $6. You must certify that you have a DPPA permissible use. A registration abstract or a title abstract is delivered at the Customer Service Counter after 1:00PM on the next business day.

"Masked Abstracts"

You can request a driver abstract that does not show personal information (a masked abstract). A masked abstract contains information about:

the class and the current status of the driver license,
endorsements and restrictions,
accidents,
suspensions and revocations,
moving violation convictions.
A masked abstract does not show the personal information of the driver. A masked abstract is available by mail or at the DMV Customer Service Counter of the Central Office in Albany.

Accident Reports

You must use form MV-198C to get a copy of an accident report. You must pay the fee that is indicated on the form. If form MV-198C does not list a record that you need to request, you can use form MV-15F.

[FReaK]

Originally Posted by GSR Alex

I got 6 points from the only ticket I got in my life. I heard that if you get something like 10-20 people together, you can have a DMV defensive driver course intructor host a "special" 3-6 hour course, and instead of only taking 2 points off it takes 4 points off your liscence. Anyone have any more info on this?

The Point and Insurance Reduction Program (PIRP), approved by the Department of Motor Vehicles, is available through private companies or corporations, called "course sponsors," throughout New York State. Each qualifying course must meet strict standards for the safe driving information presented and program effectiveness. If you complete an approved PIRP course:


It will help refresh your driving knowledge with a review of time-tested safe driving tips and an overview of today's vehicle and traffic laws.
You may be eligible to reduce as many as four (4) points on your driving record. The DMV computer will automatically note your eligibility to receive the reduction.
If you are the principal operator of a motor vehicle, you will receive a 10% reduction in the base rate of your automobile and motorcycle liability and collision insurance premiums each year for three years.


If we can get enough people, I will make a call and set up a "B20vtec" defensive drivers course.......

[OPEY]

this info should be sticky

and also should be noted, 11 points doesnt definetly mean ur license will be suspended. i have had 11 points b4 and it didnt get suspended. the judge asked if i had to drive to work or school and i told him yes, and he told me he wouldnt suspend me, but if i got another ticket it would definetly be gone

[vrvtec]

its true if u do get 11 points its goes on the system automatically and the dmv sends u a letter in the mail stating your driving privlages is revoked but u could go to the dmv and get a restricted one. but could only go to work and school thats what i got right now

[GoFastMotorsports]

Originally Posted by FReaK

If we can get enough people, I will make a call and set up a "B20vtec" defensive drivers course.......

I am down for that.....count me in for sure